2023-2024 Season : Newsletter No.5
With only 6 weeks to go to our New Season, everything is now in place.

1st August 2023
NEWSLETTER No. 5 : 2023–2024 SEASON
I am pleased to advise that with
only six weeks to our first shoot day, everything is now in place for hopefully
another successful season!
We have had a very successful
rearing field with most of our pheasants now released. Once the harvest is complete, we will be
releasing our French and English partridge.
With no rain for eight
weeks. In early July I was becoming very
concerned regarding the very sad state of our Wild Bird Cover. I had forgotten we are in North Yorkshire
where it always eventually rains. Sure
enough the constant rain mid July soon solved the problem and all our corps are
now growing well. All now looks very
promising for the new season.
However not all is looking bright
and beautiful for the future of driven shooting. No sooner did we get over the tragedy of Covid. We were faced with and are still faced with
the problems associated with possible further Avian Flu outbreaks This devastating disease looks like being
with us for the foreseeable future.
If all this were not bad enough. Possibly due to a small number of people in
Government positions both elected and employed who do not approve of our Sport,
a number of restrictions are possibly on the way.
In Scotland there are moves to license grouse shooting, In Wales shooting has been banned on Government owned land and there is a move in the Welsh Parliament to prohibit the release of pheasant and red legged partridge throughout the whole of Wales other than under license.
In England as a precaution against Avian Flu being transmitted from game birds to other wild birds. Natural England have decided that in areas on and 500 metres from an SPA (Special Protected Area) such as Moorlands, some Riverbanks and Coastal Estuaries. For the next two years a license is required from Natural England to be able to release pheasant and red legged partridge on these areas. As far as I am aware there are no scientific grounds for this somewhat draconian measure.
This legislation was brought in
with zero notice and without consultation.
I am hearing that not all the 200 shoots affected have been granted a
license to release. I understand, even
some of those who have been granted a license have been restricted to not
releasing before 30th September. Many
shoots and game farmers are unable to hold their birds penned up until
September. So there is an obvious
welfare problem for the birds. Sadly, some Shoots may close and keepers lose
their jobs. Which as we all know is
something some in authority want to happen!
So what is next? Particularly if we have a change of
Government next year. When I meet
shooting friends of my generation the topic of conversation is often around the
future of our sport. Sadly, the
consensus is that we have seen the best days of driven shooting. I really do hope that this is not the
case. However, as always, we must be
prepared to face whatever the future has in store for us. Our shooting may be restricted in a number of
ways but a day out in our beautiful countryside with like-minded friends cannot
be taken away from us. We hope !!
With all this looming over us possibly
now is the time to enjoy driven shooting as we know it, whilst you can! With this in mind the good news is that there
is a large variety of excellent driven shooting available throughout the
country at the present time.
As an individual gun or small
party in the past availability has been restricted due to most shoots selling
days only to full teams. Fortunately,
this has changed with much more availability for individual guns. When I took up serious driven game shooting
over 50 years ago. All the best driven
shooting was held in hand by estates.
Shooting partridge other than English was frowned upon and no pheasant
were shot before November. Thank
goodness things have changed!
With this large variety of driven shooting at present being available, I have detailed what I would hope to expect if I were in the line of guns on a driven game shoot in the 2023-2024 Season.
- With recent significant increases in the overall cost of running a Shoot. The cost of your shoot day should be competitively priced compared to other similar Shoots.
- Testimonials on the experiences of other guns are available on shoot websites and from GunsOnPegs. These give a good guide as to what you can expect on a particular shoot.
- For a Shoot to be situated in beautiful rolling countryside with a good variety of testing drives. There is nothing more boring as every drive being the same.
- For a Shoot to offer individual guns as well as full teams.
- For a Shoot where non shooting guests are welcome just to enjoy the day.
- For a Shoot where Lady and Novice guns are welcome.
- The size of bag is up to each individual. Some guns wish to shoot 500 to 1,000 birds in a day. To me it is unacceptable to shoot this number of birds in a day. It only fuels the fire for those who are against our sport. I find most sporting driven guns are looking for bags of around 200 to 350 at the most. With 250 to 300 being quite sufficient for most guns.
- Only non lead cartridges with degradable wads should be used. This ensures every bird you shoot enters the food chain and you do not pollute the land and water with plastic wads.
- For a Shoot to be clear on its “overage” policy. Preferably no overage charged over the agreed target bag. Similarly the Shoot’s policy with regard to cancelled days due to bad weather or if the number of birds under the bag is achieved.
- For a Shoot which aims at around 10% over the target bag with no overage charged.
- For a Shoot to be hosted in a relaxed no rush manner, in order that everyone has an enjoyable day.
- To start the day with breakfast where everyone has the opportunity to meet the other guns.
- To be given a shoot card at the start of the day with the name of each gun.
- For a detailed briefing by the Shoot Host over breakfast so everyone knows what to expect and what is expected of them.
- To shoot with a convivial team of like-minded people assisted by a polite and happy team of experienced keepers, beaters and pickers up.
- Not to have to walk too far to each drive. If walking is difficult, for a rough terrain vehicle to be available to take you to your peg.
- For transport available to drive you around the Shoot if you do not wish to use your own vehicle.
- Instructor/loaders and shot gun hire all being available.
- For each drive to be pegged and stands clearly numbered.
- For well grown fit pheasant and partridge to show on every drive up to the end of the season in January. Possibly with a few English grey partridge.
- To be presented with challenging but not impossible birds, spread over the whole line of guns on each drive.
- For the number of birds presented to the guns to be in sufficient quantity for the guns to be able to be selective in order to achieve the target bag.
- Once on your peg not to have to wait for ages for the birds to show. A mix of partridge with pheasant achieves this.
- It should be accepted that duck and/or geese may fly over any line of guns on any Shoot but the guns should have the option of whether or not they wish to shoot them.
- A duck drive should be available for those guns who wish to shoot them and no day should be dominated by duck and/or geese.
- No woodcock, snipe or ground game should be shot.
- To have fellow guns who exercise a degree of etiquette by being selective and respecting their neighbours’ birds.
- To have your spent cartridges collected at the end of each drive. When you hopefully leave them in a tidy pile!
- For guns to be welcome to bring their dogs providing they are pegged and not picking up during a drive.
- To have plenty of time to work your dogs at the end of each drive without your birds already being vacuumed up by the pickers up and not being rushed to move to the next drive.
- To experience a full days shooting with four to five drives.
- To have refreshments available throughout the day with any alcohol taken in moderation, together with soft drinks, tea and coffee, after each drive. With pie and soup at midday. The day should end with a tasty lunch specially prepared for the team, in a private Lodge or similar accompanied by a delicious wine, not cheap plonk.
- A debrief of the day given over lunch by the Host together with a card detailing the bag for the day.
- In order to support The Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust (GWCT), Countryside Alliance (CA), Gamekeepers Welfare Trust (GWT), Country Food Trust (CFT) and other organisations connected to our sport. To hold an optional sweepstake with prizes on the bag from the day.
- At the end of the day to look after the Keepers and receive a pack of dressed pheasant or partridge crowns chilled and ready to cook or for the freezer. With further birds in feather being available if required at no additional cost.
- It is also very important to have a choice of competitively priced comfortable hotels and accommodation near to the Shoot to reduce the time spent driving to and from a shoot day. For the hotels to be prepared to accommodate dogs and have secure storage for your shotguns.
- There are many other aspects of a shoot day but if a shoot can achieve these, I am sure everyone will go away happy.
So where can you find this “Proper Driven Shoot Day.” You need look no further than
THE MOUNTGARRET SHOOT !!
After 34 years of running Driven Game Shoots, the above details what we set out to achieve.
Every Shoot Day is its own Special Day. However there are three elements which can make this a challenge. Our unpredictable weather, wild creatures and humans. So some days can certainly be better than others !!
Included with this Newsletter No. 5 is the following information which you may find of interest. For hard copies please contact Lynda on 01423 323321 or e-mail info@mountgarretshoot.co.uk
Revised Shoot Day Information 2023-2024 Season
Although our Shoot is described in detail on our website www.mountgarretshoot.com. This Shoot Day Information gives you a brief outline of our Shoot. There have been a number of changes for the new season.
Directions to our Shoot Lodge
This map gives you the directions you require. Hopefully, this will avoid your becoming lost!!
Hotels, Accommodation and Restaurants
Being close the Spa Town of Harrogate we are spoilt for choice in Hotels and Restaurants. We also have The Inn at South Stainley only 5 minutes from our Shoot Lodge. The Inn also provides the catering for our breakfast and lunches in our Shoot Lodge.
We have compiled a comprehensive
list of 26 hotels and 10 restaurants, close to the Shoot, so you have plenty to
choose from.
Order Form for Non lead Cartridges
Last season we moved to non lead only shot. This gave us a ready market for our game which we plan to build on in the new season. Initially there was some resistance to change by some Members. By the season end everyone told me following a brief adjustment from lead they found little or no difference.
We are not cartridge dealers and offer
a good selection of Steel, Bismuth and alternative shot to our shoot Members. All as detailed on the attached order form with
all cartridges available from stock.
If you could return your order
form, your cartridges will be ready for you on your day.
Dressed Game Order Form
Our game dealer, Ox Close Fine Foods offers an extensive range of game products ready for the oven or the freezer. These products can be pre ordered for collection on a shoot day or posted direct to you. All orders and payment must be made direct to Ox Close Fine Foods. Contact Nick Lister on 07572 037428 or e-mail Sales@oxclosefinefoods.co.uk
Shoot Calendar and Last Minute Check List
The Calendar helps you plan your season and Check List ensures you don’t forget the many important items you require on a shoot day.
List of Available Days
We have experienced an encouraging take up of days with around 20% still available. The list has changed considerably over the last few weeks with a number of new dates coming available.
I hope there will be something
workable for you.
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Looking forward to seeing you in the New Season in “Gods Own Country,” our beautiful North Yorkshire countryside.


